Schmelzer basses? Thoughts?
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Schmelzer basses? Thoughts?
Looking for some feedback.
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Point the microphone right at the speaker, you`ll get plenty of feedback.
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I have never seen a Schmelzer in real life hear in Germany, but have often been tempted to give them a try. however there is something that always kept me from doing that.
You might contact Nick Sholl on Facebook, I think he might have tried them at some point!
You might contact Nick Sholl on Facebook, I think he might have tried them at some point!
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Thank youMStarke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:13 am I have never seen a Schmelzer in real life hear in Germany, but have often been tempted to give them a try. however there is something that always kept me from doing that.
You might contact Nick Sholl on Facebook, I think he might have tried them at some point!
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NICE!dukesboneman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:10 am Point the microphone right at the speaker, you`ll get plenty of feedback.
Definitely looking for some thoughts regarding the instrument
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You probably know that Horn Guys sells them. I too have wondered what they are like(not wanting to purchase). They are at an interesting price point compared to other "boutique" makers out there so it makes me wonder what the overall quality is.
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Re: Schmelzer basses? Thoughts?
I'd be very curious as well. They're small bores seem to be well regarded
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Nick Sholl has some videos on the YouTube’s, but it’s not necessarily me, playing on my mouthpiece, and I prefer a gold brass bell when playing solo rep.
I had seen the one at HornGuys and emailed Eric about it. Curious if it mates up with an Edwards or Shires or if lead pipes are usable from other instruments.
European players seem to dig them at a high level on the Scmelzer site.
I had seen the one at HornGuys and emailed Eric about it. Curious if it mates up with an Edwards or Shires or if lead pipes are usable from other instruments.
European players seem to dig them at a high level on the Scmelzer site.
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Nick is a really nice guy, I am pretty sure he would share some more thoughts when you contact him directly.Jbeckett wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:21 am Nick Sholl has some videos on the YouTube’s, but it’s not necessarily me, playing on my mouthpiece, and I prefer a gold brass bell when playing solo rep.
I had seen the one at HornGuys and emailed Eric about it. Curious if it mates up with an Edwards or Shires or if lead pipes are usable from other instruments.
European players seem to dig them at a high level on the Scmelzer site.
Reg popularity - as said I have never seen one in real life, but yes, they seem to be played quite a bit. I am not sure which parts he actually makes himself and where the others are sourced. I have heard people say some parts are made in China, but that's not necessarily true and not necessarily bad IF it is true.
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https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
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MStarke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:21 am
Reg popularity - as said I have never seen one in real life, but yes, they seem to be played quite a bit. I am not sure which parts he actually makes himself and where the others are sourced. I have heard people say some parts are made in China, but that's not necessarily true and not necessarily bad IF it is true.
I have also heard that they are manufactured and assembled in China.
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Not many were made. I know someone who plays one professionally.
As far as sound and feel, they are similar to other the Schmelzer models that have been discussed on this forum; lightweight, very warm but centered sound, and can be pushed without breaking up. It's not exactly the sound concept you want to bring to an audition for a bigger American orchestra, but the guy I knew played it regularly in big bands, recording sessions, pit orchestras, and sometimes regional orchestras when they called.
Consistency seems to be an issue among all Schmelzers. You may have to try a room full of them to find "the one" and even "the one" may have a quirk or two you have to figure out, but once you adjust to the horn they can be hard to beat.
As far as sound and feel, they are similar to other the Schmelzer models that have been discussed on this forum; lightweight, very warm but centered sound, and can be pushed without breaking up. It's not exactly the sound concept you want to bring to an audition for a bigger American orchestra, but the guy I knew played it regularly in big bands, recording sessions, pit orchestras, and sometimes regional orchestras when they called.
Consistency seems to be an issue among all Schmelzers. You may have to try a room full of them to find "the one" and even "the one" may have a quirk or two you have to figure out, but once you adjust to the horn they can be hard to beat.
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Thank youtkelley216 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 3:21 am Not many were made. I know someone who plays one professionally.
As far as sound and feel, they are similar to other the Schmelzer models that have been discussed on this forum; lightweight, very warm but centered sound, and can be pushed without breaking up. It's not exactly the sound concept you want to bring to an audition for a bigger American orchestra, but the guy I knew played it regularly in big bands, recording sessions, pit orchestras, and sometimes regional orchestras when they called.
Consistency seems to be an issue among all Schmelzers. You may have to try a room full of them to find "the one" and even "the one" may have a quirk or two you have to figure out, but once you adjust to the horn they can be hard to beat.
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So Nick did private message me back on face space. He basically said that they’re good but not the quality of a Shires or Edwards. I guess I’ll end up buying a rotor section from Shires, to mount my existing set ups. Thanks for all the input
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Thanks for sharing, that fits to what I have heard in the past.
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Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
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Re: Schmelzer basses? Thoughts?
I am curious as to how many Schmeltzer instruments Horn Guys have sold in the US along with the K&H.