What tenor and bass mouthpieces are you using?

mbtrombone · Post by **mbtrombone** » Sun May 24, 2020 8:55 pm

So, I haven't bought a new bass mouthpiece in about 7 years or a new tenor in about 10 years. Was bored, so I tried all my bass mouthpieces and found one that I might like more than my current, which got me thinking about what is new out there or commonly used now. After talking to some friends I was surprised how many more options there are now! Just curious to see what everyone is using?

Me

Tenor: Hammond 11ML
Bass: Doug Yeo, or Hammond 21BXL

Again, just curious to see what people are using these days.

Kingfan · Post by **Kingfan** » Sun May 24, 2020 9:10 pm

I'm old school.
Small bore tenors (including sub-.500 peashooter): DE LT101/LTD/D3 (Bach 5 as backup as it is close in specs)
Large bore tenor: Bach 5G
Bass: Bach 1.5G

hyperbolica · Post by **hyperbolica** » Sun May 24, 2020 9:49 pm

Small bore = DE XT 104 C2 - F4
Large bore = G8
Euph = 2g
Bass = 1.25G or Ferguson L

Kbiggs · Post by **Kbiggs** » Sun May 24, 2020 10:26 pm

Tenor: DE XT 102 rim, G* cup, G8 or H8 shank
Bass: DE LT 112 rim, K cup and K8 shank, sometimes an L cup and L8 shank

I’m getting too old and I don’t play enough to keep up with bigger equipment. And, referencing a different thread, I’m keeping it simply and going smaller and lighter. It’s easier to get a big, clear trombone sound on smaller equipment rather than trying to make big equipment sound small. It just ends up sounding woofy.

Thrawn22 · Post by **Thrawn22** » Sun May 24, 2020 10:31 pm

Small tenor-Bach 7
Medium tenor- Griego CS7
Large bore- Griego CS5 or 5M
Bassbone- Griego CS1 or Symington 1.5

Burgerbob · Post by **Burgerbob** » Sun May 24, 2020 10:52 pm

At the moment, subject to change...

small tenor: quite a good Bach 6.5AL
large tenor: Ultimate Brass SMP. Only had a week on it so far
bass: Yamaha Yeo. Current horn is not jiving with my larger stuff, and it works. Not the sound I have in my head.

TheBoneRanger · Post by **TheBoneRanger** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:40 pm

Small tenor: Doug Elliott LT100/C+/D3
Large tenor: Greg Black 4G/5G
Bass: Laskey 85MD

I'm keen to track down a Laskey 59MD and 59D to try on the large tenor.

Andrew

mrdeacon · Post by **mrdeacon** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:43 pm

I'm currently using all Doug Elliott setups with Lexan rims (nickel allergy). I do have two Symington bass pieces in ZR which I hope to play again some day...

Small tenor: XT104 lexan rim, XTC+ cup, D2 shank
Large tenor: XT104 lexan rim, XTF* cup, F8 shank ; XT104 lexan rim, XTF* cup, F4 shank
Euph: XT 104 lexan rim, XTF* cup, F8 shank (I dig small pieces for Euph, I like the old school Brass Band sound)
Bass: LB114 lexan rim, LBM* cup, M8 shank ; XB114 lexan rim, XBM lightweight cup, M8 shank ; older LB114 lexan rim, LBM cup, M8 shank
Contra: CB118(?) rim, CBP cup, P8 shank. I have a contra setup and no contra haha. It'll come in handy one day.

Symington stuff... 1.5 in ZR and 2 in ZR. I adore my Symington pieces and plan to use them again at some point.

Finetales · Post by **Finetales** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:20 am

Small tenor (lead): Warburton 8S/4* 2-piece. Very shallow cup, Bach 4G-sized rim.
Small tenor (all-around): Hammond 13M, or at least it will be again if I can ever find it.
Large tenor: Hammond 12ML. I would use my Warburton 7ST/3* (3G-size) but my 88H doesn't play nice with it.
Bass: Warburton 2B/3* (Schilke 60-sized).

MStarke · Post by **MStarke** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:46 am

Alto(s): Ferguson 11 and sometimes Yamaha 46B
Small tenor: Not really settled - currently Ferguson 11
Medium tenor: Not really settled - sometimes Yamaha Nils Landgren
Large American tenor: Ferguson 2
Large German tenor: Yamaha Alain Trudel - I know this is not very conventional, but it works well (probably due to the narrow backbore)
Bass: Ferguson L

However I am currently working on a set/small line of new mouthpieces with a well respected mouthpiece maker which will affect these choices.
I am pretty sure this may be interesting for others as well, so will keep anybody posted who wants to know.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Mon May 25, 2020 2:03 am

Alto: DE XT B cup with V3 rim
Small bore: DE XT C+ cup with V3 rim
Large Bore: Griego V3, O3 and 1C, in that order, depending on the context. I want to have the 1C threaded for my V3 rim.
Bass: get outta here with your bass!

NBischoff · Post by **NBischoff** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:02 am

Tenor: Bach Corp 3G
Bass: Hammond 20BXL

braymond21 · Post by **braymond21** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:04 am

Bass: Greg Black 1/4G, .312 #2
Large Tenor: Greg Black 3.5
Small Tenor: Schilke 51D

I was constantly switching mouthpieces on bass (my main horn) for the last few years and had a new piece at least every week but when I came across Greg Black pieces, I found out they fit great for me. Went through a few and settled on my current one which works great for me. I love the equipment side of music so finding a mouthpiece that worked well with no complaints was a relief after years of searching.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:35 am

Small tenor: MV Bach 6.5a
Large tenor: DE LT101 H cup or Faxx 4g
Bass: Symington 2g

tomchall · Post by **tomchall** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:59 am

Large Tenor - DE XT101 G and H with Gold/ Lexan rims

Post by **BGuttman** » Mon May 25, 2020 7:56 am

Alto Giardinelli 5M underpart with DE MT 102 rim
Small Tenor DE 102/E/E2
Medium Tenor: DE 102/E/E4 or Wick 4BS
Large Tenor DE 102/G/G8 or Wick 4BL
Bass: Marcinkiewicz GR or DE 112/L/L7
Euph Warburton 3B with 3 shank
Small Eb tuba Marcinkiewicz 107

Crazytrombonist505 · Post by **Crazytrombonist505** » Mon May 25, 2020 8:08 am

Currently I use:

Small tenor: Bach 5GS
Large tenor: Schilke 51
Bass: Hammond 19BXL

pedrombon · Post by **pedrombon** » Mon May 25, 2020 8:28 am

Alto: Cross MAC A1.
Small bore: Schilke 47 & Yamaha Nils Landgren.
Medium bore: Greg Black 4.5GS-L (.265" throat).
Large bore: Griego 4.5 NY.
Bass: Symington 1.5.

dukesboneman · Post by **dukesboneman** » Mon May 25, 2020 8:35 am

Alto - Skeletonized Bach Megatone 7C
Bach 12 `s & 36 - Schilke 51B
Bach 36B - Schilke 51C4
Bach Lt42G - Schilke 51C4/Giardinelli Symphony T
Bach 42BO - Schilke 51 / 51C4
Bass - Schilke 58/59
Eb Tuba - Miraphone Eb mouthpiece
Medium Bb Tuba - Bach 24W (Bored out)
Large BBb Tuba - Schilke 62
Bass Trumpet - Bach Megatone 7C

walldaja · Post by **walldaja** » Mon May 25, 2020 8:39 am

Small bore tenor Christian Lindberg 10CL
Large bore tenor Christian Lindberg 5CL
Bass Christian Lindberg 2CL
Euphonium Wedge 5G

bigbandbone · Post by **bigbandbone** » Mon May 25, 2020 8:47 am

Bach 15CW and Denis Wick 0AL

Post by **BGuttman** » Mon May 25, 2020 10:22 am

dukesboneman wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 8:35 am Alto - Skeletonized Bach Megatone 7C
Bach 12 `s & 36 - Schilke 51B
Bach 36B - Schilke 51C4
Bach Lt42G - Schilke 51C4/Giardinelli Symphony T
Bach 42BO - Schilke 51 / 51C4
Bass - Schilke 58/59
Eb Tuba - Miraphone Eb mouthpiece
Medium Bb Tuba - Bach 24W (Bored out)
Large BBb Tuba - Schilke 62
Bass Trumpet - Bach Megatone 7C

Just curious. What is the purpose of skeletonizing a Megatone? Couldn't you just have skeleyonized a regular 7C?

dukesboneman · Post by **dukesboneman** » Mon May 25, 2020 10:32 am

BGuttman,
It was an experiment. I liked the bigger back bore and rim feel.
But wondered how it would play with less metal than a Megatone but more than a standard 7C
I`m happy with the results.
Left - Regular Megatone
Right - Modified Megatone

bbalika · Post by **bbalika** » Mon May 25, 2020 10:36 am

Small Bore: AR 25.4 or Doug Elliott C+ cup with 101 rim
Large Bore: Hammond 12ML or 11ML
Bass Bone: Hammond 19BL

Pre59 · Post by **Pre59** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:52 pm

A Josef Klier 8D, JK 7D, JK 7E, and the m/p that came with my Kuhnl Bart van Lier tbn, which looks like its based on based on a JK 8E, but with an opened out throat and a IMO opinion a less comfortable rim.
All other mouthpieces have been moved on, and my current fave with the Kuhnl 480/88" BZ is the JK 8E..

Hobart · Post by **Hobart** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:59 pm

Small Bore horn: Conn 2 from the early 1970's, it cost me twelve bucks, sounds decent, and the high notes pop out well.
Large Bore: Bach 5G, I think it's pretty good
Bass Trombone: Bach 1 1/2G, I have a 1G but it's too big for me.
Baritone: Bach 6 1/2 AL. It's what I have and gets the job done.

I also have an old Roth and a Holton 12C, but the Roth has the oversized Reynolds shank, and the Holton makes everything really sharp and the low notes don't come out well.

bassbone721 · Post by **bassbone721** » Mon May 25, 2020 2:20 pm

King 2b: Bach NY 7c or Bach 5
King 3B/f SS: Bach 6 1/2 AL, though my friend has a Wick 5BS that I'll try out.
Large tenor: GB Alessi 3.5 replica
Bass: GB 1 1/4GM
Contra: DE 119 N9

ericcheng2005 · Post by **ericcheng2005** » Mon May 25, 2020 4:41 pm

Large bore: Bach 5GB (I only play large bore, I’m a high schooler)

The beauty of the 5GB is you still retain that 5G “stableness” but with less metal on your face.

BurckhardtS · Post by **BurckhardtS** » Mon May 25, 2020 5:18 pm

Small tenor: XT N106 C+ D2

Large tenor: XT N106 F+ G8, used to be GB NY 1 for a long time, but I went back to the Elliott because of the comfort recently.

Bass: This isn't my mouthpiece, but I have used a LB 114 K9 before and I loved it.

Kevbach33 · Post by **Kevbach33** » Mon May 25, 2020 7:16 pm

Small tenor: It depends on the job at hand...
Small(er) group works? CKB 7C
Big band? Bach 5 (3rd book is pretty flexible in range)

Large tenor: Bach 5GS. I chose a shallower mouthpiece for extra clarity. I do want to try a 5GL, or maybe a normal 5G for extra separation from the above 5...
I don't jive with the Holton 89 my 168 came with, which i presume is the original mouthpiece. Too wide inside and not enough bite.

Bass: Schilke 58, long shank. I also have a short shank 58 and a Wick 1AL, the rim of which is a bit too flat in contour for me.

sirisobhakya · Post by **sirisobhakya** » Mon May 25, 2020 10:41 pm

Yamaha Douglas Yeo and 60BL for bass (and tuba!). The latter is for when I want to play high for an extended period of time.

I used to have Yamaha 53DL and Bach 3G for tenor, but right now I lend them to students in the school band.

Lastly, Wessex 3 for tenorhorn and rotary bass trumpet.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Tue May 26, 2020 1:19 am

Almost all the AR Resonances seem to have dissapeared

ronnies · Post by **ronnies** » Tue May 26, 2020 2:03 am

Small tenor: Wick 5BS
Large tenor: Wick 4AL (though I think my Bach 42 sounds better with the 5BS in an adapter)
Bass: Wick 2AL

Ronnie

HawaiiTromboneGuy · Post by **HawaiiTromboneGuy** » Fri May 29, 2020 2:59 am

Small- Laskey 54M
Large- Laskey 59MD
Bass- Laskey 93D

PSJ · Post by **PSJ** » Fri May 29, 2020 7:31 am

Bass - Marcinkiewicz 1 Concert Hall
Eb Tuba - Marcinkiewicz 106 or DE LB110, P Cup, Tuba Shank
Large Bore - Marcinkiewicz 3 or 5F
Small Bore - Marcinkiewicz 5F or 6 1/2AL

I mostly play bass or tuba. So not always decided on the Large and Small Bore. Mouthpiece choice sometimes depends on what I am playing and what sound is needed. I am worthless on anything much smaller then a 6 1/2AL.

Slidemo · Post by **Slidemo** » Fri May 29, 2020 7:54 am

Bass:
DE SBW107-SBJ-J8/J8C
Rath 2BW

Large Tenor:
DE XT101.5G-XTG-G8/G8C
DE LT100G-LTD+-E8/E8C

Small Tenor/Alto
DE ST98G-STC-C2/CaltoS

FeelMyRath · Post by **FeelMyRath** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 pm

Large Tenor: Rath L5BB Lightweight
Euphonium: Rath L4BB
Bass: Wick 2AL

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 pm

Large Tenor: Rath L5
Small Tenor: Rath S5
Alto: Yamaha 48A
Euphonium: Wick 4AM
Bass: Marcinkiewicz EBT1 Concert Hall or Drilled-out Wick 2AL

EdwardSolomon · Post by **EdwardSolomon** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:25 am

Small tenor: NY Bach 6
Large tenor: Shires Vintage 5G, 5GS or 3G
Bass: MV Bach 2G or Reeves 'Mr Bass'
Contrabass: Klier 2 or Thein MCH

Bloo · Post by **Bloo** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:17 am

small tenor: Warburton 7D
large tenor: Warburton 7D
large tenor when i have to play a bass part: Wick 3AL
bass: Bach 1G
euphonium: Warburton 7D

trumpet: Olds 3C

jonzbonz · Post by **jonzbonz** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:13 pm

Tenor (.500) - Wick 7CS
Bass - Yamaha Yeo (double valve) Wick 1AL (single valve)
Euph - Wick 1AL
Soprano - Yamaha 14E4

euphobone · Post by **euphobone** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:31 pm

Small Tenor/Baritone: Wick 6BS
Large Tenor: Hammond 12ML
Euphonium: Hammond 12L (might try the 12XL, or 11L)
Bass Trombone: Hammond 20BLL

tim · Post by **tim** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:07 pm

Bach 1 1/4G
Bach 7C
Trumpet - Bach 7C

imsevimse · Post by **imsevimse** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:25 am

Alto: Bach 12E
Small tenor (.500 or less): Bach 6 3/4C & Yamaha "Nils Landgren" Signature mouthpiece.
Medium tenor (between .508-.530): Yamaha "Nils Landgren" signature mouthpiece & Karl Hammond 12M.
Large tenor (.547): Karl Hammond 12M, 12MXL, 11ML, 11L
Bass: Karl Hammond 20BL

/Tom

ssking2b · Post by **ssking2b** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:17 pm

Alto: Marcinkiewicz ET7
Small Tenor: Skelatonized and custom throat opened Bach 11C
Large Tenor: Marcinkiewicz ET1
Bass Bone: Marcinkiewicz 105
Euphonium: Denis Wick 4L
3/4 Tuba: Denis Wick Heritage 1L
4/4 Tuba: Sellmansberger Symphony shank and cup with titanium coated MO Helleberg Large 33.2mm (Flat)
(The 4/4 tuba mouthpiece is from Houser Mouthpiece Works in PA)
The Sellmansberger piece and rim are all surgical quality stainless steel, and is the only non-brass piece I play

bigbandbone · Post by **bigbandbone** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:30 pm

bigbandbone wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 8:47 am Bach 15CW and Denis Wick 0AL

I just switched my bass to a Denis Wick 1AL. 0AL was a little to big for me.

MrWatermelon · Post by **MrWatermelon** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:28 pm

Playing my new ultimate brass G125M on bass, like it much better than my griego .75

JohntheTheologian · Post by **JohntheTheologian** » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:19 pm

Small bore tenor-- Marcinckiewicz 8H
Large Bore tenor- Marcinckiewicz 3 or CKB 5G
Bass-- Marcinckiwwicz 3 or Marcinckiewicz GR
Euphonium-- UMI 5G (same as CKB 5G) Kelly 5G for outdoor cold weather gigs

davebb · Post by **davebb** » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 am

3B+f. Bach Corp 6.5al
Large bore. Faxx 4G

(Based on the results above) Does anybody in their right mind play a Bach 4G (or 5G).? I was expecting to see more.
(Apologies to any 4G or 5G players who have payed above )

Post by **BGuttman** » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 am

davebb wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 am 3B+f. Bach Corp 6.5al
Large bore. Faxx 4G

(Based on the results above) Does anybody in their right mind play a Bach 4G (or 5G).? I was expecting to see more.
(Apologies to any 4G or 5G players who have payed above )

I played a 4G for years. Then went to a Wick 4B (L or S) and currently a Doug Elliott LT 102