cup width and lip shape...
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:12 am
Acknowledging that individual embouchures might all be unique (?), is there a correlation in general between cup width and lip shape.
Daniel
Daniel
Same exact feeling! Thick full lips, slightly less thick than average rounded rims over here too! Doug, is this preference common for people who have thick lips?Cotboneman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:22 pm I don't know what a proper response is, not being a mouthpiece designer, but I do know what feels comfortable on my chops. I have thick set, full lips, so for me cup width is not a big deal (I play all trombones, except alto, and double on trumpet), but rim shape does affect me. I feel most comfortable with thin, rounded rims. Flat rims, or rims with sharp shoulders are uncomfortable.
ericcheng2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:35 pmSame exact feeling! Thick full lips, slightly less thick than average rounded rims over here too! Doug, is this preference common for people who have thick lips?Cotboneman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:22 pm I don't know what a proper response is, not being a mouthpiece designer, but I do know what feels comfortable on my chops. I have thick set, full lips, so for me cup width is not a big deal (I play all trombones, except alto, and double on trumpet), but rim shape does affect me. I feel most comfortable with thin, rounded rims. Flat rims, or rims with sharp shoulders are uncomfortable.
Thank you!Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:26 pmericcheng2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:35 pm
Same exact feeling! Thick full lips, slightly less thick than average rounded rims over here too! Doug, is this preference common for people who have thick lips?
If they are the particular embouchure type that Reinhardt called IIIB, which I describe as Medium-high placement, and play with a noticeably downward horn angle. That puts mouthpiece pressure onto the inner and outer edges of the rim instead of the face of the rim. Therefore, rounder feels better.
But lips like that do not necessarily mean you are that embouchure type. Type is defined by function, not appearance (of the lips). I use appearance (placement and angle) as a description because that's something you can easily observe.