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Hi all,

Has anyone tried out the Hammond F3 which was recently added to the Jay Friedman Hammond line? Would be curious to get some opinions before saving up for one.

Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.

What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.

Bach5G wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:33 pm Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.

spencercarran wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:59 pm

Bach5G wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:33 pm Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.

“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:47 pm What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.

The version he is using himself are actually pretty big.. 3G sized and not too small throat either.. Besides, its more how You blow them..

Bach5G wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:33 pm Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.

Hammond was actually before Brassark..

The F1 was cool. Compared to the Brassark Friedman, it felt a little less flexible and more stable. Easier to get a predictable decent sound, harder to color. I noticed that the rim diameter and contour felt slightly different, the cup was almost identical (so was the throat) and the backbore on the Brassark looked (and felt) more open.

Bach5G wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:18 pm

spencercarran wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:59 pm

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.

“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.

I'm not fancy enough for manufacturers to want to put my name on anything. I just meant that it doesn't seem like Friedman is any more gear-fickle than the rest of us.

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:47 pm What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.

My main piece is a custom hammond similar to a 12L
(Slightly larger inner rim, slightly larger outer rim diameter, slightly shallower cup)

spencercarran wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:43 pm

Bach5G wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:18 pm

“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.

I'm not fancy enough for manufacturers to want to put my name on anything. I just meant that it doesn't seem like Friedman is any more gear-fickle than the rest of us.

I studied with Jay, he's one of the biggest gear heads i've ever met, but he deserves to be with his legacy.
I believe he tries different trombones, different bells, different mouthpieces on the regular. I'm sure all the companies want him to play their brand, but he's quite loyal to bach.

I've tried a few of Jay Friedman's favorites over the years. They never have worked for me -- but I don't play in Orchestra Hall [played there once in the 1970s -- it's a different place now], and I certainly don't have Jay Friedman's chops! Jay is his own animal, and what he plays clearly works for him!

I'm not seeing the F3 on the Hammond website, just the alto FA3. Could anyone share some specs. I'm currently on the F1 and liking it a lot. Would be interested to compare the F1 and F3.