Next size up from Bach 4g

bubba7753 · Post by **bubba7753** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:05 am

What is the next size larger than a 4G. Looking for a larger rim but same cup size if that's possible. Thanks for your help.

Fidbone · Post by **Fidbone** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:22 am

tbonesullivan · Post by **tbonesullivan** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:17 am

If you are looking for the same size cup but a larger rim, you are probably going to need to go custom. I know there are several makers that have a 4G rim with a 5G cup, but I have not heard of any having a 3G rim with a 4G cup.

Just a question, but why do you think you need a larger rim?

Vegasbound · Post by **Vegasbound** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Doug Elliott is the way to go

Post by **Doug Elliott** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:06 am

Easy to do in my system. That's pretty much what I use on large tenor. XT 104 rim, G, G8 or G+, G+8, or H, H8

Post by **Matt K** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:14 pm

3rd that recommendation. Been rocking a XT104N/G/G8 for almost 10 years.

SquareTube · Post by **SquareTube** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:40 pm

Schilke M5.3 is in the ballpark, I believe.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:21 am

Detach your notion of rim size from cup depth. DE or, maybe, the Alessi or Greg Black designs. I personally do not like the fat Alessi rim, but the design is solid. DE is my vote.

I was loving my now SEVEN year old C+/D3 mouthpiece in a big band rehearsal today, Doug. Brought a smile to my face.

.... Wait ... G+8??? Don't tell me there is a C+3 shank now?!? Noooooo.......

Post by **Doug Elliott** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:32 am

No C+ shanks, I like the D shanks on a C+ cup.
But I do have new D+ shanks for the D+ cups, and G+ shanks for G+ cups.

rwallace7 · Post by **rwallace7** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:09 pm

The XT D+ cup matched with the XT D+4 shank is fantastic on a Bach 36. IMO.

Aznguyy · Post by **Aznguyy** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:15 pm

rwallace7 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:09 pm The XT D+ cup matched with the XT D+4 shank is fantastic on a Bach 36. IMO.

I second that.

boneberg · Post by **boneberg** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:20 am

Nothing at all against DE, but Josef Klier also has a very good system with pieces that are well-made, economical and readily available (at least here in Germany).

https://www.jk-klier.de/en/mouthpieces/ ... s-trombone

Post by **BGuttman** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:46 am

I found that there are several other mouthpieces that will provide a step up in size from the Bach 4G. I used a 4G for years. I now have a Warburton 7 and the Wick 4BL both feel a little larger than a 4G. Of course I use a Doug Elliott LT 102G/G4 or G8 as well. There are even 3 series in Bach or Wick (and a Warburton 6).

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