TromboneChat

dcslideman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:40 pm I have a 12E. It was originally for alto, but currently don't have an alto. It does OK with my Holton 65(.485" 1965 Buddy Morrow) and my XO 1634R(.508"). Definitely bright, a little thin sounding on the staff or below. I also have a Shilke 43A. Similar description.

Matt K wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:01 pm If anything, something a little bigger might help too. Sometimes having something a little more “open” actually feels easier to play. There’s nothing wrong with a 12C either, 12E is unorthodox but it could be fine too. If you’re in a location where you can try a few it’s definitely worth it to try some out and see if anything else works better for you. Often times you’ll know right away if something is a better fit.

greenbean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:46 pm Just use the 12C. And forget about the 12E - it was just a bad recommendation.

Posaunus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:57 pm You could search a long time these days to find a lead trombone player in a "jazz band" who uses a Bach 12E or a Schilke 42B, or anything that small.

SteveFoote wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:11 pm I think the guitar playing clerk at the local music store saw a opportunity to get rid of some mouthpieces that had been in stock for a LOOONG time. I know nothing about a 12E but I am very familiar with the 42B and the 12C. The 42B is supposed to be a copy of Tommy Dorsey's mouthpiece. It looks like an oversized French horn MP. Very small and funnel shaped. It is deeper than a 12C but only because of the long lead-in to the throat. I used it in church to play the Alto line out of the hymnal on a 3B SS and not overpower the strings, piano, organ and choir. It was a replacement for (drum roll) the 12C. The 12C was much more brilliant and in the upper register sounds almost like a trumpet. It simply was not suitable for a modest sized church.
It doesn't sound like your band is playing TD style. If that is correct you probably don"t want a 42B.
I would not buy anything without a good trial. What sounds good and loud in the practice room at a music store will probably sound completely different on the bandstand.

Jamesburton23 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:45 am

SteveFoote wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:11 pm I think the guitar playing clerk at the local music store saw a opportunity to get rid of some mouthpieces that had been in stock for a LOOONG time. I know nothing about a 12E but I am very familiar with the 42B and the 12C. The 42B is supposed to be a copy of Tommy Dorsey's mouthpiece. It looks like an oversized French horn MP. Very small and funnel shaped. It is deeper than a 12C but only because of the long lead-in to the throat. I used it in church to play the Alto line out of the hymnal on a 3B SS and not overpower the strings, piano, organ and choir. It was a replacement for (drum roll) the 12C. The 12C was much more brilliant and in the upper register sounds almost like a trumpet. It simply was not suitable for a modest sized church.
It doesn't sound like your band is playing TD style. If that is correct you probably don"t want a 42B.
I would not buy anything without a good trial. What sounds good and loud in the practice room at a music store will probably sound completely different on the bandstand.

Thank you for the review on the 42B, i have never seen that mouthpiece on a store, so i didint know exactly how it was.
The sound im looking for is that of the TD Stlye you mentioned, (i think i didnt explain it right) because i need to play lot above the staff. So i want to ask (since you seem to know about the 42B): how does it feel, the rim, the range, endurance and sound?
The 12C is OK but i think that the sound would be better if it was even brighter. Yesterday on a small shop in my city i was recommended a Schilke 45B Mouthpiece which i was told it was a "Shallower 12C" i havent seen one so i dont know how true that is. If you have some information on that one, that would be fantastic too.
Thank you!