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• Solid mid-low range (Bb2-F4). I want to get loud and have strong articulations w/o taking way too much energy
• High range that's not a struggle (up to C#). Would be nice to slip between partials easily too
• Sound concept: razzy, brilliant, lots of character (but of course with the nice core that comes with the 3BSS silver bell)
• Not important: section blend, soft playing

• Easily accessible high range. By default the sound is more on the sweet / buttery end, and making it brighter takes some a lot of air / lip. But sounds great.
• Low/mid range takes a lot of finesse to get loud. It's tiring, and articulation isn't super clear.

• GREAT mid range. Beefy and resonant
• High range takes work. Sounds a little thinner too, maybe? unless I slot it just right

• Bach 6 1/2 AL - too round sounding, high range too difficult
• Bach straight 7 - really unfocused. Maybe I just got a dud
• Schilke 47B - similar to the 7C for me with a little more brilliance and a little less core. Can't put enough air through the horn when I'm in the staff.

Posaunus wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:10 pm You may need a bigger throat / more open backbore.
Suggestions to try:
• Marcinkiewicz ET4 "Lloyd Ulyate" (my favorite)
• Marcinkiewicz ET3 "C Loper"
• Laskey 50C

Rusty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:25 pm I’d say the closest piece to perfect for that horn size I’ve found is a Bach 6.5A (tighter throat), and similar sized pieces. I have a MV version that’s particularly good. Still a fat and open low range, but really good high register that plays more like a bigger 11c. Like you’re finding, in each direction you’re making a compromise, but this is usually the way, there’s no perfect mouthpiece.

Doug Elliot also makes great pieces and there are a few options that will be solid in both the high and low register. I’d suggest LT or MT series C+ or D cup with D3 shank and a 100 to 101 rim. His small shank pieces all have very fat and open low range for me.

The Yamaha Nils Landgren is also very open and plays evenly over the horn with a fat sound and real open blow. And the Faxx 6.5AL actually feels punchier and more efficient than other Bach 6.5AL I’ve tried.

Good luck!

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:26 pm Doug Elliot C+ cup, D3 shank, your choice of rim.

eln wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:07 pm Bach Corp 7C

• Easily accessible high range. By default the sound is more on the sweet / buttery end, and making it brighter takes some a lot of air / lip. But sounds great.
• Low/mid range takes a lot of finesse to get loud. It's tiring, and articulation isn't super clear.

And here's some others I've tried briefly:

• Bach 6 1/2 AL - too round sounding, high range too difficult
• Bach straight 7 - really unfocused. Maybe I just got a dud
• Schilke 47B - similar to the 7C for me with a little more brilliance and a little less core. Can't put enough air through the horn when I'm in the staff.

eln wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:19 pm

By the way Burgerbob, this is the 3BSS you sold me a while back! The one where you had to get the gooseneck replaced. I've been having a lot of fun with it

Rusty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:25 pm I’d say the closest piece to perfect for that horn size I’ve found is a Bach 6.5A (tighter throat), and similar sized pieces. I have a MV version that’s particularly good. Still a fat and open low range, but really good high register that plays more like a bigger 11c. Like you’re finding, in each direction you’re making a compromise, but this is usually the way, there’s no perfect mouthpiece.

eln wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:07 pm Marcinkewitz 8H

• GREAT mid range. Beefy and resonant
• High range takes work. Sounds a little thinner too, maybe? unless I slot it just right